so far with attempts to really take world of echos anywhere, and all the members not being serious, and the only musicians that i know that are serious are one of my few uncles for guitar, and a possibility for a drummer, which is my cousin who is naturally a guitarist, he's pritty good on drums, and I, naturally am a vocalist, but I come up with guitar riffs here and there, whatever. but last night's practice was much much more productive with my cousin, daniel on drums, opposed to having Mike "parrot" babcok doing drums. because when jaime and I showed up to the practice space, dan was there, and we got atleast through two of the songs we're fucking around with kinda more peiced together, and then some. and what makes jamie happy about the drug use is that he doesn't have to worry about me getting all hopped up on some shit like crack or something that's an easy addiction, and he knows pot and alcohol is all I'll really do, same with dan, and he doesn't really care if we do it, just as long as we don't bring it to his house and do it. and we do it after practice. because we smoked pot last night after practice. and it was fun, I don't think my mom noticed again. lol it was funny though.