I found this video very interesting. If you don't practice intellectual humility and active listening your not good with arguments.

Nivram wrote:

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I enjoy some of that, yes🖤

Which made me think about this rn.

https://voicebox.site/article/exclusivity-subcultures

I think some types of gatekeeping within a subculture is good, but, to be honest, the answer is not entirely yes or no.

If you keep the racist, fascists, etc out, the gatekeeping is actually necessary, plus, if you trie to encourage community cohesion.

I think the problem erupts when
- you over police a community or a subculture

- you leave very little room for progress, which leads to stagnation

- you make it hard for newcomers.

- you are gatekeeping just to feel superior because you have an inferiority complex (this kind of gatekeeping is the worst).

I am somewhat mixed when it comes to the subject of elitism/gatekeeping- like, I have seen some people who just want to seem goth but then the next week they've moved onto something else and don't even seem to give Goth any thought- but then some people do need to engage with the culture to form their own tastes. I guess the best approach is just to assume everyone has the best intentions and is interested in sincerely learning unless they eventually prove otherwise.

I do know several people who, over the years, have told me that they don't consider certain bands "real goth" or whatever, just because they're newer or have had less time to develop, and I think this is bad for the culture. Just felt that is worth mentioning.

Goth Power 📢🪖